
With the federal deficit spiraling out of control and the country about to fall over the fiscal cliff, it's back to tax talk. The gist of the argument is that Obama and the Democrats want to tax the 'rich' and Republicans want to leave rates where they currently stand. The media and the left have pounded this discussion into the table non-stop
and make the claim that the 'rich' don't pay enough taxes. The president himself has said it, and most of Americans believe it. Have the politicians bothered to look up the facts or are they just playing populist politics to fool the people?
Let me start with a thought experiment: Say that you are throwing a party with your friends. Everyone is supposed to bring something. What situation would bother you more: a friend only bringing some chips and dip when they were told to bring sandwiches, or a friend not bringing anything, and then going into your wallet and taking out twenty bucks when he arrives? I think the answer is clear for most people that the second situation is worse. But why would this not be tolerated on a micro scale, but is celebrated on a macro scale? The situation that I just described is exactly what we have in the federal tax system. You've heard of the 47%, but it is actually quite worse than that because most of these 47%ers are receiving a negative tax rate.
Liberals seem to be a little confused about something: They keep mentioning that the 'rich' should pay their fair share, but they don't seem to understand the definition of fairness. Nearly everyone agrees that the only fair taxation system is where people put in an amount proportionate to their income. Before continuing to read, think about that statement. Isn't it agreeable? Could you take a position against that statement and be able to defend it?
Most agree that it would be unfair if there were a flat fee that everyone had to put in, such as $1000, because the poor would have to pay a larger percentage of their income than more successful people. Okay fine. So if it is not a flat fee, then to be proportionate to income it will have to be a percentage of income, right? But then stop! Suddenly up is now down, left is now right, and fair is not considered fair anymore. The rules change and liberals suddenly want successful people to pay even MORE than what was previously considered fair. Now successful people have to pay a higher percentage of their income to subsidize other people who aren't contributing their fair share. And then liberals have the audacity to make claims that they still aren't putting in enough? Are they just ignorant of the facts or are they just pushing their socialist agenda? They do not seem to understand the the 'rich' already do pay a higher percentage of their income and a higher dollar amount than their lower earning counterparts on average. Of course, the typical American would not know this when high profile politicians such as Obama repeatedly keep touting the horn at every possible chance and making ignorant comments such as "It is wrong that in the United States of America, a teacher or a nurse or a construction worker who earns $50,000 should pay higher tax rates than somebody pulling in $50 million." Really? How many examples could you possibly present that represents this situation? Because it's definitely not the norm. Warren Buffett started this meme with the mention that his secretary pays less of a percentage in taxes than him (while omitting the different types of income each earns).
So, let's defer to the facts. Look at page 6, figure F of IRS return data (below).


Take a look at the row titled "Total income tax minus refundable credits as as a percentage percentage of AGI." What you will see there is an upward sloping tax rate with respect to income (that trails down slightly beyond $2 million). The tax percentage of income of someone making more than $10 million a year is a rate 6 times more than the rate for someone making between $30-50k on average. And below $30k a year, the average federal tax rate is negative. You have a whole boat load of people freeloading (47.9%), with a large crowd of them getting paid not to contribute and most of the tax burden is placed on a small subset of the population (table below).

Right about now is when someone usually will start crowing about the payroll taxes that he and other workers pay. Yes, you do pay these, but these are taxes for different purposes. These are not the taxes paid hitting the point of this discussion. You get these monies back in the form of social security, and healthcare when you are old. These are not taxes being paid and get vaporized to run the federal government. Don't want to call social security or medicare an entitlement because "you've been paying into the system all these years?" Then stop sounding the horn about all the payroll taxes that you've paid to justify your existence in this country - you can't have it both ways. But even then, we still have the freeloading 15: the 10 percent of 'taxpayers' who get paid not to pay federal or payroll taxes. This is welfare laundered through the tax code plain and simple.
Usually about this time is when those making the arguments above are cornered because they've just been proved wrong on both claims that the 'rich' pay less of a percentage of income or less total money than everyone else, so they just throw up their hands and say, "Well, it is okay if they pay more than they currently are now." I would respond in two ways: 1) These 'rich' are still part of the economy and actions against them will still impact the economy. And 2) there is a huge preoccupation with 'rich' in this country but the focus really shouldn't be on the producers, but on the takers. How can you possibly complain about those contributing tax dollars to the system, but not be bothered by those taking from the system? Personally, I'm a lot less worried about a producer contributing hundreds of thousands of dollars a year and taking care of his own affairs than the millions of leeches sucking this country dry.
So what is fair exactly? A flat percentage tax with limited deductions is the most equitable tax system, by definition (it would also have the added benefit of simplifying the tax code; see the form to the left). But voters are usually asked to vote for public policy that will discriminate against people they are jealous of, and they vote for policies that will prevent any of the burden from falling on themselves. As the system stands now, how can it be fair for someone to vote for higher taxes on someone else? I've heard the answer many times: "Well, what do I care?" The tax does not affect them and they have no skin in the game, so of course it is easy for them to vote to have someone else shoulder their tax burden. They are being asked to vote for discriminatory policy with myopic benefits to themselves. Anyone who votes for higher taxes that targets another demographic should have to be subjected to those higher taxes, Period. If that were the case, we'd have to most fair tax system in the world.
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www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/welfare-spending-equates-168-day-every-household-poverty_665160.html
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_tax_in_the_United_States#History_of_top_rates
www.youargue.com/index.php/discussions/browse/20-top-federal-tax-rates-real-perspective.html
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_tax#Countries_that_have_flat_tax_systems
Of that sample, the US and UK are dead last for the recent data with the exception of Hungary tied for second to last. For most of the last 20 years, almost all of the countries have had higher growth than both the US and UK. However, each of the countries implemented their flat taxes at different times. Estonia switched around 1995, and Russia in 2001.
But your logic is off. It kind of goes like this:
I gave my dog a bath
After the bath, I found a flea
Therefore giving dogs baths gives them fleas
The missing information? The dog likely had fleas before the bath. Similarly, countries from the USSR had corruption problems long before they implemented flat tax reforms. To pin corruption on the flat tax is ludicrous.
And I can poke holes in your thesis further by pointing out that not all countries with flat taxes are high in corruption. For comparison, the USA ranks at the 86% percentile for least corrupt.
www.transparency.org/country#USA_DataResearch
Estonia, with a flat tax, scores the 79% percentile www.transparency.org/country#EST
And by your logic then having a high progressive tax code would prevent corruption? That claim doesn't pan out either.
www.transparency.org/country#SVK_DataResearch
www.transparency.org/country#CZE
What would be the most progressive tax code possible? State-owned-com munism. You can't earn any income, you can't own anything, but the state takes care of your needs. Yeah, that has worked out well in the world's history.
Furthermore, the flat or progressive nature of the tax code has nothing to do with the implementation of social programs. That is public policy.
That said … there are 3 people on a boat. Your 3 days from land. 1 person has no food, 1 person has 3 days food, 1 person has 48 days of food. Its in everyone’s best interest that everyone else lives. What do you do?
Secondly, why does the first person have no food? Did he party hard and blow all his money before going on the boat trip while the other two saved their money to buy extra food so that they could be well prepared? Once again this becomes a moral hazard problem. The responsible end up subsidizing the irresponsible, skewing incentives. Perhaps the next time these three go on a boat trip 2 of them expect the others to pick up the slack. Then maybe they all starve and die because the irresponsible made a bad decision and it brings them all down.
Administrator Note: Below comment combined with this one.
Another answer would be to let the one without food starve for 3 days to understand he should have brought food. Next time he'll remember to bring food. The guy with 48 days has more than he could possibly eat in 3 days but it's his to try. He won't be much help paddling.
Another answer would be for the guy without food to bargain for 3 days food from the guy with 48; perhaps signing a contract that says he'll pay 4 days back and paddle more time. The person with 3 days food should tell fat ass 48 to jettison 42 days because it's excess ballast so all 3 can start paddling equally and with more sincerity because the sharks are lookin' at us kinda funny like.
Of course the best answer is to share equally and eat as little as possible because we're in deep do-do and we don't know for sure whether it's really only 3 days to land. That way we save for a rainy day and 0, 3, and 48 are good for duration. If we make it to land in 3 days, then it's really up to 48 to do whatever he want's with the remaining 42 days; maybe sell it to 14 others and buy fresh food or more seed for the next time they find themselves in need.
Oh yea, and don't get into any boats with people who don't have food until you do.
The statement presumes that each boater eats and paddles equally. Otherwise, how could one determine how much food each has and how long it takes to get to shore? That presumption may not be accurate given that all people are not created equally except in the eyes of the law which may not necessarily be on a boat with 3 paddlers.
If we grant that presumption is correct, another, more realistic answer is that the person with 48 days of food will negotiate with the person with no food to receive 4 1/2 days of paddling for 3 days of rations. The person with 48 days of food might also negotiate with the person with 3 days of food to recieve 1 1/2 days more of food for 1 1/2 days more paddling. That person with 48 days of food now has 43 1/2 days of food and it will take 4 1/2 days of two people paddling. That person will then have 39 days of food at the end of the 'trip' and will not have had to paddle one bit. All live but not as 'comfortably' as the person who originally had 48 days of food, obviously, because that person does not have to paddle but does have to protect his ass and protect his 'food'.
In other words, given that all things are equal except the produce, the person with the production makes the golden rules. If you don't like that, then work smarter or harder or both to have 48 days of food.
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